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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:27:00 -
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Belana Mawr wrote:They use 3mills isk worth of destroyer that packs an 800dps
link fit or i must be forced to call you a liar. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:47:00 -
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Liar |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.15 15:48:00 -
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the OP made 2 claims.
800 dps from a catalyst. it costs 2m.
both have been proven false. therefore i do believe this thread should be locked for rumour mongering |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.15 16:09:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Falin Whalen wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:CCP buffs the tank for all barges and exhumers nerfing forever the idea of a Hulkageddon........... and "they" still complain. Well yea, they buffed the tank so that they don't have to tank their Hulk/Mackinaw, and instead concentrate on max yield. Sheesh, get with the times man. Some yes. Others no. Generalizing about 'everyone' is always a bad idea.
you don't understand scarcasm do you? |
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Posted - 2013.09.15 18:20:00 -
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i've just seen a freighter get ganked.
guess how many catalysts it took? |
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Posted - 2013.09.15 18:35:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Dave Stark wrote:i've just seen a freighter get ganked.
Just one? You need to stay logged in longer. I've seen one die every 20 minutes since DT. True story, bro.
i was just semi afking my way to jita in my orca, i wasn't even looking for freighters! |
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Posted - 2013.09.15 18:48:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Dave Stark wrote:i've just seen a freighter get ganked.
guess how many catalysts it took? None?
correct. they used tornados. |
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:50:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:What's all this then?
apparently for 3m isk you can get an 800 dps ship.
i didn't know about this, did you? |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:15:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:SpoonRECKLESS wrote:why not afk mine and watch local. I mean avoid being ganked is easy. you got a mobile local app or so? cause when im afk i really dont see local ever
even if he did, what difference would it make. if he's afk he can't do anything about it even if local shows a spike of 2000 hostiles. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:09:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Sure, if you slap on a DCII, and reinforced bulkheads, crippling your yield below that of cheaper ships, you will be killed by 2 of them.
And what exactly is wrong with this? If the Hulk pilot pays attention they won't get blown up in the first place.
the fact that he's full of ****, is what's wrong with this.
the only thing that outmines a 0 mlu hulk is a 3 mlu mackinaw.
1339m3/min - 3mlu mack 1302m3/min - 0mlu hulk 1275m3/min - 3mlu retriever 1228m3/min - 2mlu skiff numbers from eft.
tank your hulk, or quit bitching about it. the yield is already the second highest possible yield BEFORE you put mlus on it.
edit: totally forgot the covetor that gets 1m3/min more than the hulk if you put 2 mlus on it. 1m3, hilarious. due to truncation the likelihood of this 1m3 ever making a difference is basically nil. so they are in essence, the same yield. |
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:16:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Do people actually believe the 2M ISK number, or am I being wooshed here?
you can fit a catalyst for 2m.
you can also fit a catalyst for somewhere shy of 700 dps.
you cannot do these things at the same time though, despite the mewling of the masses. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:27:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:The real crime here is that SMA have not kicked this guy out yet.
it wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't outright lying about things that are so easy to fact check.... |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:36:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:Do people actually believe the 2M ISK number, or am I being wooshed here? you can fit a catalyst for 2m. you can also fit a catalyst for somewhere shy of 700 dps. you cannot do these things at the same time though, despite the mewling of the masses. 'Zactly. My standard gank-lite fit Cat runs just under 8.5M ISK; Suitable for popping all T1 Barges, Ventures, and some Haulers. I've never tried fitting a 2M Cat, maybe I should just to see what you can get on it for that number. Hint: The hull is close to 1M all by itself, dependnig on where you buy...
This is what ~2m will get you. |
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:43:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:Do people actually believe the 2M ISK number, or am I being wooshed here? you can fit a catalyst for 2m. you can also fit a catalyst for somewhere shy of 700 dps. you cannot do these things at the same time though, despite the mewling of the masses. 'Zactly. My standard gank-lite fit Cat runs just under 8.5M ISK; Suitable for popping all T1 Barges, Ventures, and some Haulers. I've never tried fitting a 2M Cat, maybe I should just to see what you can get on it for that number. Hint: The hull is close to 1M all by itself, dependnig on where you buy... This is what ~2m will get you. Thats... Not actually bad. Not 700 DPS, sure, but some of the right implants might boost it up nicely. 470 if you plug in 6% small hybrid turret damage, and 6% surgical strike implants in to that fitting.
here |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.18 21:34:00 -
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Hammer Crendraven wrote:Careful on that term printing isk.
Mining does not print isk and neither does station trading. You can earn isk for your character doing these things but you are not printing isk. Just moving it around.
For an example of isk printing; Missions do print isk .
on a personal level, you are obtaining wealth for practically 0 input. although rightly, that wealth is a **** poor trickle.
which is half of the reason that i do it afk as **** when i mine. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.20 05:26:00 -
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unidenify wrote:I never understand why people don't bother to tank their mining barge
in right config on procurer (all T2). I can get over 100k EHP against Kinetic, Thermic, and Explosive.
because if you just mine somewhere where gankers don't frequent in a higher yield mining barge, it's more efficient to just swallow a loss every blue moon than it is to bother tanking them.
although, then, obviously, you have no right to complain about losing ship. ever. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.20 18:20:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:This has been brought up before. Even the devs have been quoted saying that ganking in hi-sec should remain possible just not so much profitable. The major reason that highsec suicide ganking is profitable; some people are idiots. And no matter how hard they try, CCP can't patch 'Stupid.'
even if they could; they shouldn't. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.20 19:09:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:This has been brought up before. Even the devs have been quoted saying that ganking in hi-sec should remain possible just not so much profitable. The major reason that highsec suicide ganking is profitable; some people are idiots. And no matter how hard they try, CCP can't patch 'Stupid.' even if they could; they shouldn't. They're trying their best. blizzard constantly trying to patch stupid was why i started giving ccp my money instead of blizzard.
guess i need to find another company to give my money to now... |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.20 20:00:00 -
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Hammer Crendraven wrote:Players actually do a whole lot more PVE than they do PVP. Even though they say they like PVP better.
that's because you can lose isk a hell of a lot faster than you can make it. especially when you put it all in the back of a freighter. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.20 20:17:00 -
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Hammer Crendraven wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Hammer Crendraven wrote:Players actually do a whole lot more PVE than they do PVP. Even though they say they like PVP better. that's because you can lose isk a hell of a lot faster than you can make it. especially when you put it all in the back of a freighter. I know the why of it. I am just saying if you want to use CCP figures do not scew the data to make your point.
but i spent 4 years at university to learn do just that. i'd hate for it to have been a waste of time and money. |
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.20 20:34:00 -
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Hammer Crendraven wrote:lol yea so what marketing major?
no, statistics. |
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Posted - 2013.09.20 20:43:00 -
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Hammer Crendraven wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Hammer Crendraven wrote:lol yea so what marketing major? no, statistics. Ouch.
easily one of the most interesting and satisfying things i've ever done. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.09.21 07:21:00 -
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rockets, on a stealth bomber?
this interests me. |
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